Xiran They Zhao, Chinese History Meowmer
@XiranJayZhao
Tue Nov 03 01:39:15 +0000 2020

i literally have multiple mentions every day asking me to dissect this movie so HERE WE GO: All the cultural details in Netflix's Over the Moon, the thread!

Will feature plenty of juicy details on life in modern China, 'cause that's where this takes place in - https://t.co/aYHsfGzOfz

The moon-eating sky dog is a real thing in Chinese myth, called tiangou 天狗. It probably also inspired the kanji for tengu in Japanese myth, but tengu are VERY different https://t.co/O76s2MkcsN

I haven't heard of Chang'e making the sky dog spit out the moon though, so this might've been invented for the movie

Note: this movie was made in association with an actual Chinese studio so there's no such thing as being culturally right or wrong. This is not a critique thread. https://t.co/xkxrbn8qtQ

Yes, there IS a double standard for Chinese-culture-inspired movies made by Chinese people vs non-Chinese people, because when it comes to non-Chinese people...it's not their culture to play around with??

I don't think they explained Yi / Houyi's own myth in this movie but here's a tweet I did on it! Chang'e and Houyi are the ultimate legendary couple in Chinese myth lol

https://t.co/sEDtEEuvnf https://t.co/wDmyAfaogD

TECHNICALLY his name is Yi instead of Houyi but the confusion has been going on for so long it no longer matters. He's Houyi in this movie so I'm calling him Houyi in this thread.

https://t.co/St60uu2tND

After Houyi took down the 9 extra suns, he was given two immortality elixirs for him and Chang'e, but because of ~reasons~ (theories differ, as referenced in this movie), Chang'e took them both and ascended so high she shot right past the Heavenly Court and got stuck on the moon https://t.co/1SUXdKDaoD

The town Fei Fei lives in is clearly modeled after one in the Jiangnan region, meaning "South of the Yangtze River." It's the region I'm from, actually. Lots of pretty waterways and stone bridges and artsy folk. But no, most cities in modern China don't look like this - https://t.co/GX4qoRoSfF

Most towns that look like this are protected heritage sites / tourist traps. You can tell by the family mooncake stall's emphasis on how they're a Time-Honored Brand 老字号, meaning this business was established before 1956 https://t.co/ZLOxQR9hAo

you can tell this movie was made by Chinese people because LOOK HOW FAMILIAR EVERYTHING LOOKS!! DAMN!!

The bright-colored plastic bin! The random garlic hanging on the wall! The communal pastry making! The weathered equipment and tiles in the restaurant kitchen!! (LOL) https://t.co/SL58oSs76E

It's no wonder that Fei Fei's parents tell her so much about Chang'e bc they've clearly been in the artisanal mooncake business for several generations. Chang'e and the full moon are associated with the Mid-Autumn Festival, basically Chinese Thanksgiving

https://t.co/nbHctkRyeg https://t.co/9So2U27n41

Even their mooncake boxes say "traditional handmade"

Rabbit is here bc in Chinese myth there's a rabbit on the moon and the parents refuse to be off brand even when the mom is dying https://t.co/2kuUDLQUux

Alas the mom has passed away from her mysterious illness 😔

You might've heard that in Chinese culture, white is the color of mourning instead of black, but in modern China, people often wear black to mourn too because western influence https://t.co/FVXvKaXVUc

side note: funeral practices can get REALLY WILD in some parts of China, lol https://t.co/HbaAjRfJjo

I'm not sure if cutting your hair all messed up like this is a common trauma thing or just something subliminal in Chinese culture? I remember doing this to myself the day before we were to fly for Canada https://t.co/e5kzT9iPHB

In Chinese families that have experienced a loss, it's common to have an altar like this dedicated to the loved one, with a picture of them and offerings of fruit https://t.co/KZZeJzol2O

BRUUUHH the bright plastic thermoses in the background are also SUCH a thing in China. People generally don't like to drink cold water bc of the belief that it's bad for your health so most families just have a bunch of these standing around with boiled water in them https://t.co/91byvIL0Aj

also the stove and scale here...they're...they're just very Chinese, LOL. Like made in the 80s looking stuff... https://t.co/CYm2CniZs7

and how could i forget the multiple greasy bottles of soy sauce, vinegar, and cooking wine beside the stove!!!! https://t.co/kldA9u4pOj

Qie zi, literally meaning "eggplant," is the Chinese equivalent of saying "cheese" when taking a photo

where are the peace signs or finger hearts tho https://t.co/9gaOu7rKWg

DFSA;JSDFS THIS RANDOM CROWD OF PEOPLE DANCING IN A TOWN SQUARE IS A COMMON THING IN CHINA TOO

this is called 广场舞, or Square / Plaza Dancing. There's a stereotype that only aunties do it but it's for all ages lol https://t.co/UzchU1hdb8

also a common sight is just...construction crews...construction crews everywhere. those traditional buildings in Fei Fei's town? unless it's a tourist sight, most are getting torn down to make way for high-rises and skyscrapers. https://t.co/Qx1NGvwevL

dried fish!! and traditional hearth!!! https://t.co/PFisTKdbLw

When you go visit Chinese relatives, you're generally expected to bring some food or presents. It's bad manners to walk in empty-handed, basically

also very accurate that the wives are considerably better looking than the husbands https://t.co/NEWn8q0zqu

if u don't hear this from ur chinese relatives who you haven't seen or spoken to in a year are they even ur chinese relatives that u haven't seen or spoken to in a year https://t.co/qOwifFMIwV

IF YOU DON'T BRING IN YOUR CRABS ALIVE AND SQUIRMING THEN GET OUT OF THIS CHINESE FAMILY REUNION https://t.co/c0kQjPEY1c

i used to eat these dishes all the time wtf

(now i try to be vegan)

the big meatballs are called Lion Heads https://t.co/i7avPaAlYH

here they're acknowledging the many different versions of Chang'e's story. Some say she was selfish and just couldn't wait for Houyi to come back before taking the pills, others say she was forced to take both so Houyi's jealous apprentice wouldn't get them https://t.co/siZx0BU8S4

This sounds really dramatic when Houyi lived like 3k years ago but it's not THAT big of a stretch if your family is one that kept genealogical records really carefully lol

I personally am related to the Li clan of the Tang dynasty. it's not as impressive as it sounds. https://t.co/X83ai9FUtt

peak chinese auntie energy https://t.co/CoWhbih5Mb

that jello looking dish is red-braised pork belly, made with stuff like dark soy sauce, sugar, ginger, and star anise https://t.co/EZoyAyId8x

Fei Fei's upcoming stepmom gives her a mooncake in a tin that LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE THE TINS I USED TO STORE MY STATIONARY IN WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL IN CHINA ASDFLKJAS;

stationary cases can get WILD, i made airport security gasp once when they opened mine and 3 tiers sprung out https://t.co/wpxhBGP6D1

it's implied that this crane is Fei Fei's mother's spirit trying to get her to move on. cranes are seen as very spiritual animals in Chinese myth. https://t.co/60E6GZVKvJ

oh fun fact about China's space program! A lot of their stuff is named after myths, so you have the Chang'e lander (left), the Yutu / Jade Rabbit rover (depicted on the right), a planned Heavenly Court space station, and more https://t.co/u8hapjVPJq

THE WHOLE ONLINE SHOPPING SEQUENCE IS REPRESENTATION OF CHINA'S VERY VERY ROBUST E-COMMERCE INDUSTRY LOL

well maybe it's robust in America too but here in Canada I have to wait at least a week for anything to be delivered...while in China everything comes in 2-3 days https://t.co/Qx9ulamLzx

here comes the ugly Chinese winter school uniforms....they basically only come in red or blue...how i suffered aesthetically....

also in China you stick with a single class and classroom for every subject! the teachers are the ones who have to move around https://t.co/8A1ZCLGjwK

and it's totally true that the classes have a ranking poster somewhere to praise all the best-scoring students while the kids with the worst grades are constantly shamed https://t.co/JRWSNT4exm

the poem written on the board is that famous Mid-Autumn Festival poem by Song dynasty poet Su Shi / Su Dongpo

https://t.co/YqsNIu2MqM https://t.co/MbZMu1sibK

they actually had her build a functioning rocket as;dlkjf

This is big "anything you can do, some 12-year-old Asian child out there does it better than you” energy https://t.co/Ptd9LSKFf4

look it's the GAY MOON LIONS

well the movie calls them lions, but if they're winged then they're probably also inspired by pixiu, a myth creature that looks like a winged lion with short antlers https://t.co/v1b4iKhifX

Lunaria in this movie is a completely original design, but in myth, Chang'e lived in the Guanghan Palace, with only Jade Rabbit as company

also some dude Wu Gang who got banished to the moon to try and cut down a tree that continuously heals itself. so like Chinese Sisyphus. https://t.co/ZulZZET6YC

and then look it's Chang'e!

Or 3D cartoon me, apparently! https://t.co/N49rAeOTa8

i've seen some mainland Chinese complaints about this Chang'e being "too Western" and "different from Eastern beauty standards" but honestly...i love her idgaf

let Chang'e be fierce 2k20 https://t.co/KWNzltIxQj

in one version of the Chang'e story she turns into a toad the moment she arrives on the moon as a punishment for her greed so this is probably a reference 😂 https://t.co/uJb1QCl3UN

i don't know why the angry birds are here tho https://t.co/UrcmANRVm1

Ping Pong is here because Chinese people dominate the sport and they're proud of it loooooool

like at the Olympics the top contenders are usually Chinese vs Chinese. there is no suspense. https://t.co/RgNw0j6D4K

Chang'e is all i want to be tbh

I NEED THESE OUTFITS https://t.co/n3FIqQExXm

LOOK AT THIS GODDEEEEESS

(i mean she lost the match but we don't care) https://t.co/GdkS2f9yTe

ken jeong is here but did...did they name his character after the Gobi Desert?

i switched it to Chinese subs and he's named Jello there instead lol https://t.co/f18uExKoPx

also in English the Jade Rabbit is making a "potion," but in Chinese he's making "medicine," as he does in Chinese myth https://t.co/Ja8exEbBU5

it's implied that the final missing ingredient for the potion is love, which Bunjee managed to give

damn what is this instalove going on here https://t.co/EpnGcqWZdM

The two lines of Mandarin that Chang'e sings aren't translated in the English subs, but I switched to Chinese and they mean "I wish you everlasting love in every lifetime" https://t.co/CZ13Hy1S3T

it's telling that the first thing Gobi assumes after Fei Fei says her dad is remarrying is that her mom passed away instead of "they got a divorce." Unfortunately, there's still a lot of stigma associated with divorce in China. Parents are pressured to "stay together for the kid" https://t.co/mTLoEsdcwp

Jade pendants worked as contracts in ancient Chinese law!! The terms were carved onto it, then the pendant was broken in half, with each party carrying a piece. This pendant probably held Chang'e and Houyi's promises to each other. https://t.co/uruagdIJLg

it's not explained why this is the last time Chang'e and Houyi can see each other, but they're singing "Thoughts of missing you are hard to bear; I wish I could be with you" https://t.co/hgZtzq2HPd

Chang'e is depicted in Tang-dynasty-style makeup a lot because that's the era where women looked most...spiritual and heavenly (how do i translate the connotations of 仙 lol)

also plug for my thread on this style of makeup

https://t.co/IgwngcFZ56 https://t.co/zbMReaCR9P

Chang'e and Fei Fei's shared grief is what connects them, i wasn't ready for this 😭 https://t.co/yQkvm2BGCP

Chang'e looking so pretty while Fei Fei's out here dressed like the Michelin man tho

(but i will say, this style of coat is very common in China) https://t.co/SSztMZIpM6

see, getting a little brother is actually very terrifying for an Eldest Daughter in an Asian Family because u nEVER KNOW IF YOUR FAMILY IS GONNA FAVOR HIM IN ALL CASES

but i assume this is gonna work out for them https://t.co/wSriXc6nkm

BUNGEE YOU MET HIM 20 MINUTES AGO!!!!

but i understand the desire to leave Earth, carry on https://t.co/QzP7yOIdfY

Fei Fei does not get to keep the picture to flex about how she met Chang'e after all : ( https://t.co/4knVXb89Vw

DOUBLE SMOOTH BALLS

I TOLD YOU THESE LIONS WERE GAY https://t.co/dpuruzpfyv

LMAO @ the passive aggressive way the medal is positioned

Fei Fei's dad and Chin's mom have a pic in Western style wedding wear here, but they probably have more in an album in a whole range of outfits. That's a thing to do when you get married in modern China lol. https://t.co/HhQd75zjQn

WAIT SHE BROUGHT THE SPACE DOG HOME AS A PET?? THE POWER..... https://t.co/nRdxvJy6SR

this is true!! because Circle (Yuan 圆) sounds like Reunion (Tuanyuan 团圆) https://t.co/TTuyukblRm

oh i forgot to mention but having a meal in the courtyard is also pretty common if you live in a traditional house and there are lots of people over https://t.co/OagnPHBXAL

after Fei Fei shows she has moved on the crane flies to join other cranes 😭 https://t.co/iFii5dLadV

AND THAT IS IT

WHEEEE

I definitely recommend this movie if you want a magical experience and don't mind crying looool https://t.co/mjjlA383lH

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Tue Nov 03 04:15:04 +0000 2020